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Comments on: Bad %^$# happens a lot i.e. why a “vaccine side effect” probably isn’t one https://garycornell.com/2020/12/13/bad-happens-a-lot-i-e-why-a-vaccine-side-effect-probably-isnt-one/ - with an occasional random thought on random topics. All material is owned and copyrighted © by Gary Cornell but may be freely quoted Tue, 09 Mar 2021 16:50:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.4 By: Why Someone Dying After Getting Vaccinated Doesn’t Mean Anything – Tremendous https://garycornell.com/2020/12/13/bad-happens-a-lot-i-e-why-a-vaccine-side-effect-probably-isnt-one/#comment-554 Tue, 09 Mar 2021 16:50:06 +0000 https://garycornell.com/?p=622#comment-554 […] We keep hearing scary stories about people getting sick or dying shortly after getting a COVID vaccine. But we shouldn’t confuse correlation with causation. From the mathematician Gary Cornell’s excellent blog: […]

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By: Mark https://garycornell.com/2020/12/13/bad-happens-a-lot-i-e-why-a-vaccine-side-effect-probably-isnt-one/#comment-538 Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:45:38 +0000 https://garycornell.com/?p=622#comment-538 In reply to Weekend Editor.

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By: Weekend Editor https://garycornell.com/2020/12/13/bad-happens-a-lot-i-e-why-a-vaccine-side-effect-probably-isnt-one/#comment-537 Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:18:53 +0000 https://garycornell.com/?p=622#comment-537 I’m almost tempted to respond to your title with Rabbi Harold Kushner’s book, When Bad Things Happen to Good People. But I love that book too much to drop it into the discussion the two of us would have vs anti-vaxxers. 🙂

In truth, the discussion reminds me of when Pfizer had to recall celecoxib. It’s a lovely idea, inhibiting COX2 but not COX1, to get anti-inflammatory pain relief for arthritis sufferers, without the stomach ulcers caused by aspirin (which inhibits both COX1 and COX2).

But… sooner or later heart attacks started showing up. Now, you expect some heart attacks, just as the background rate, as you note here. But if you’re comparing it with aspirin, which is cardio-protective, you expect to see more heart attacks than with just aspirin, even if celecoxib is heart-neutral.

It’s only when you see statistically significantly more than that many that you start worrying about whether celecoxib is a problem. Though I more or less recall they were vilified in the media, Pfizer seemed to take action immediately once it became clear that there were more heart attacks than expected.

It was the right thing to do. The public never much accepted that, but it was still the right thing to do in terms of saving lives.

BNT-162b2 (doesn’t it deserve a better name?!) is going to be like that, I bet.

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